YESWINDCOHOCTON.COM: UNREALISTIC CHOICES
YESWINDCOHOCTON.COM offers up a page of unrealistic choices showing a coal plant (This...) and then micro/personal wind and solar panels (or This) as if that was a valid equivalent choice of either the coal plant or industrial wind turbines (the point of the page). Unfortunately, industrial wind turbines do not replace base capacity plants. Conventional power plants put out 100's of times the power that all the planned industrial wind projects in NYS combined and wind just isn't counted on as base capacity. No one in their right mind likes pollution, but no one should believe either that industrial wind that the DOE projects as providing 1/48th of 1 percent of electric generation by 2030 is a choice _instead_ of conventional power plants or that these projects will make a dent in global warming. Like using leeches back in the middle ages to cure the sick --- the answer lies elsewhere...
This misleading "choice" is like asking a Cohocton family of four, who needs daily reliable transportation rain, snow or shine to work, school, doctors, grocery store...
THIS...
OR THIS...
posted by formosa at 9:11 PM
6 Comments:
You're wrong the point was to strike a nerve and point out a reality. We need to stop raping the planet, you apparently felt this way at one time as you invested in one of those residential wind mills. By the way nice bicycle do you get to ride it much?
I see, so how in your mind is constructing industrial complexes all across our rural landscape not continuing to "rape" (your word) the planet? Or do you not believe that this is industrial development? Finally how many of these turbines do you need to replace a coal plant, and would you commit to shutting down that coal plant?
BTW - Still support small or personal off grid wind, always have.
Formosa
Industrial or Commercial wind turbines is what they are called, I can not argue your point there.
The pictures on the website are intended to show the devastation Coal fired plants cause the second set of pictures are actually Nukes not coal or gas fired. In this day and age with all the talk of terrorist threat do we really want these strewn across the country.
The wind turbines are not quite so hard to look at (in my opinion) you may disagree. I don't feel wind energy is the total solution, it should however be part of the solution. I was looking at the newsweek article on cohocton free's updates site. Quite honestly the part about the landfill gas was disturbing, why not get some benefit from those gases instead of just burning off the methane and releasing CO2 to the atmosphere (which is less harmful than methane)COuld it be used to power a turbine?
We need to look at all of the options Wind, Solar, Biomass and Conservation. I hope you would also support on grid residential wind and alternative power sources.
Have you taken a look at www.harbec.com this company is using numerous technologies to power their manufacturing facility.
They are even turning turbines using the heat generated by the manufacturing process. Maybe this guy should be running the countries energy program.
It amazes how people can think windmills will ruin the view. But these same say nothing about people planting trees on their property and block the view from others. So if one is allowed to Plant trees on their land and nothing is said then they should be allowed to put windmills on their land also. Kind of ironic when one owns the land people can try to tell them what to do and threaten them with law suits isn't it
George C. Buss
With the DOE projecting wind as 1-48th of 1 percent by 2030 - I would hope you wouldn't think of wind as the total solution. This is probably where we differ greatly - there is no data that supports industrial wind on the grid as having any appreciable benefit, therefore you are right I don't want them because they do not work as advertised, ie the benefit is far lower than the impact.
What you are describing is biomass and gas regenerating (new coal and nat gas plants do this). This is all good stuff but not the topic of our Cohocton project.
Agree looking at all options, but we should be very clear on the data driven benefit.
Regarding asthetics, there are industrial zones for industrial items, trees are not industrial items the last time I looked.
Formosa
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